Your thoughts?

“Are we worthy of God’s love? I think so.” – http://www.jonathanbrink.com
“God longs to speak. And it is our right and privilege to hear His voice.” (Taken from the blurb about a book in my local bookstore’s flyer)

What about you? Do you think you are worthy of God’s love? Do you think you have the Right to hear God’s voice?

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8 Comments (+add yours?)

  1. Rick
    Jun 23, 2008 @ 07:02:56

    I’m thinking about a post on this topic. The short answer … “it depends.”

    Referencing Rachel Evans’ post on the topic, I would say, no, these guys are reflecting faulty thinking that results from refashioning God to a single dominant characteristic, in this case, love. Because they fail to understand the full nature of God and because some of that runs against the definition they are trying to build, they are looking for a way to “justify” God’s (and our) love of the fallen world. Therefore to decide fallen creation is somehow worthy makes the puzzle feel better (although it remains incorrectly assembled).

    They also suffer from misinformation and being judgmental of the Doctrine of Election. Which is interesting because they think those holding to that doctrine are guilty of the same.

    R.C. Sproul coined the phrase “Radical Depravity” to better articulate the “T” in TULIP. So these guys are not onto something new. They are merely reflecting some of the truth found in the Doctrine of Election.

    So now because we are not totally depraved but radically depraved instead we are somehow worthy of love? That’s an odd leap and I think a wrong one. They clearly do not understand the full nature of God and His love that they hold so inappropriately wrong.

    Yes He loves us. No we do not deserve it.

    There is are confusion in the language they use. I say this because Evans circles back with a hope that God “adores His creation”. Yes He does. But not because we are worthy. There has been no evidence offered that suggests we “deserve” the love we receive. In fact, orthodox Christianity relishes in the idea that we do not deserve it. We call it mercy and grace.

    Now, back to an alternate answer. After redemption the opposite is true. While Satan tries to convince us that we are not worthy, we actually are very worthy. We are the righteousness of Christ and yes, worthy of God’s great love.

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  2. susan
    Jun 23, 2008 @ 07:19:01

    matthew 3:11
    matthew 8:8
    matthew 10:37-38
    The parable in matthew 22, specifically verse 8.

    i realize these references are few, and they are picked out of a “blueletterbible” word search, kinda cheating. 🙂 there were MANY other references as well. These verses placed ‘worthiness’ in Christ, not us. The verses were mostly concerning a person realizing their place before Christ, their need for repentance, their forgiveness in HIm, etc. When they began to understand the truth, when their eyes were opened to it, they saw that THEY WERE NOT WORTHY, only Christ was worthy of anything.

    “God longs to speak.” – sure.

    “and it is our right and privilege to hear HIs voice” – um. really?? i would say the bible tells us it is due to HIS GREAT MERCY AND GRACE that we can and do hear His voice and receive his forgiveness and love. isn’t this the great history of the world???? we don’t deserve, yet He gives and gives???

    I know i don’t have a grasp of the Bible like i should at this point in my life, but i believe from what i’ve read, that God is worthy, and i am saved, blessed, forgiven. but definitely not worthy of it all.

    ????????

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  3. susan
    Jun 23, 2008 @ 07:22:47

    hmmm…. i like the last point you made Rick (you posted while my post was in the making!)

    🙂

    i haven’t exactly thought of being worthy of GOd’s great love once we are the righteousness of Christ…. a new thought for my brain. thank you.

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  4. Nicole
    Jun 23, 2008 @ 11:59:32

    I like what you added at the end as well Rick. It’s part of imputation is it not? Sometimes I am quick to remember that not only did He become my sin, but I also take on His righteousness.

    I am uncertain about the doctrine of radical depravity – that’s a new term for me. We do not sin as much as we could (we are not all sociopaths, or rapists or thieves), but if everything that is not done in faith is sin, then does it really matter if all I am doing is yelling at my kids, and not just sleeping with my neighbor? How does God view us, before regeneration??

    Well said Susan.

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  5. raquelamisto
    Jun 23, 2008 @ 13:40:44

    let it be known. you have been tagged.

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  6. Nicole
    Jun 23, 2008 @ 19:25:19

    I should let everyone here know – Rick typically offers up better posts on all this kinda stuff than I do. You should visit his site. http://rianniello.blogspot.com

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  7. David
    Jun 24, 2008 @ 11:12:08

    My response was here: http://unorthodoxology.blogspot.com/2008/06/inherently-good-and-bad-ideas.html.

    Worthiness implies entitlement which to me runs counter to love of any kind.

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  8. clearly
    Jun 26, 2008 @ 01:11:40

    Matthew 11:21-22: God doesn’t owe revelation to anyone! When he gives it, it is grace…i love grace

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